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		<title>By: Brizahd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brizahd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had better understood the DRM woes before buying an elite.  I gave my old refurb 360 to a friend.  I called saturday about seeing what could be done to get my xbox live games to work offline on my NEW 360 elite. I was told they would only help me if I still had my refurbished 360, and would only help me with that console. I wasn&apos;t liking what Francis had to tell me so I asked to speak to his supervisor. Christine wasn&apos;t any better. Somehow I was wrong in buying a new console. That someone could be playing those games on my account offline on the refurbished. Not that they were accusing me of that mind you! Never mind that I formatted it, and gave it to a friend back home. A single parent who couldn&apos;t afford it. Never mind that I talked them into going gold, and buying some of the same xbox live games I had so we could play together. Thus gaining them a new customer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had better understood the DRM woes before buying an elite.  I gave my old refurb 360 to a friend.  I called saturday about seeing what could be done to get my xbox live games to work offline on my NEW 360 elite. I was told they would only help me if I still had my refurbished 360, and would only help me with that console. I wasn&apos;t liking what Francis had to tell me so I asked to speak to his supervisor. Christine wasn&apos;t any better. Somehow I was wrong in buying a new console. That someone could be playing those games on my account offline on the refurbished. Not that they were accusing me of that mind you! Never mind that I formatted it, and gave it to a friend back home. A single parent who couldn&apos;t afford it. Never mind that I talked them into going gold, and buying some of the same xbox live games I had so we could play together. Thus gaining them a new customer. </p>
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		<title>By: Devlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, it&#039;s per console, not per hard drive. So if, for example, you upgrade from a 20GB hard drive to a 120GB hard drive on a premium Xbox, you won&#039;t have any issues with the DRM. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, it&#039;s per console, not per hard drive. So if, for example, you upgrade from a 20GB hard drive to a 120GB hard drive on a premium Xbox, you won&#039;t have any issues with the DRM. </p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you experiencing this issue for the first time, add your voice to the numbers that have existed since the first refurb/repair was completed back in Nov/Dec of 200---5. 
 
The short-sightedness of MS&#039;s DRM implementation is astounding. They instituted a system which could ONLY work as intended if there was a 0.000000% failure rate instead of the (estimated) 30% or so that exists currently. 
 
To read more about the issue, visit Parallax Abstraction&#039;s GREAT summary of the issue at the blogspot link above and sign the petition at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.petitiononline.com/fixxblm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.petitiononline.com/fixxblm&lt;/a&gt; (also linked to from PA&#039;s site). 
 
To see the full extent of the problem and read about the various applications of the &quot;points after repair&quot; Silver Dummy Account workaround, go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.xbox.com/1159815/ShowPost.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://forums.xbox.com/1159815/ShowPost.aspx&lt;/a&gt;  
 
You&#039;ll quickly realize what a snafu this really is since Mike Pollock&#039;s story is definitely a deviation from the norm (even though he&#039;s gotten through it twice now). 
 
Good luck all! Get the word out! It&#039;s the only way MS will eventually admit their mistake with the DRM like the recent build quality admission. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you experiencing this issue for the first time, add your voice to the numbers that have existed since the first refurb/repair was completed back in Nov/Dec of 200&#8212;5.</p>
<p>The short-sightedness of MS&#039;s DRM implementation is astounding. They instituted a system which could ONLY work as intended if there was a 0.000000% failure rate instead of the (estimated) 30% or so that exists currently.</p>
<p>To read more about the issue, visit Parallax Abstraction&#039;s GREAT summary of the issue at the blogspot link above and sign the petition at <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/fixxblm" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/fixxblm</a> (also linked to from PA&#039;s site).</p>
<p>To see the full extent of the problem and read about the various applications of the &quot;points after repair&quot; Silver Dummy Account workaround, go to <a href="http://forums.xbox.com/1159815/ShowPost.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://forums.xbox.com/1159815/ShowPost.aspx</a>  </p>
<p>You&#039;ll quickly realize what a snafu this really is since Mike Pollock&#039;s story is definitely a deviation from the norm (even though he&#039;s gotten through it twice now).</p>
<p>Good luck all! Get the word out! It&#039;s the only way MS will eventually admit their mistake with the DRM like the recent build quality admission. </p>
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		<title>By: Joonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Mike, once you go through all of that (my customer rep today had no idea of any of this, sheesh), will you only be able to access your content on the new Silver account? Because that would suck, I want my Achievements on my Gold acco. 
 
Today I was told repeatedly by an MS customer rep that the XBLA purchases relate in no way to me being online or not. I even brought up them being tied to the console itself, but I was brushed off. Goddamn this can be... so... frustrating. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mike, once you go through all of that (my customer rep today had no idea of any of this, sheesh), will you only be able to access your content on the new Silver account? Because that would suck, I want my Achievements on my Gold acco.</p>
<p>Today I was told repeatedly by an MS customer rep that the XBLA purchases relate in no way to me being online or not. I even brought up them being tied to the console itself, but I was brushed off. Goddamn this can be&#8230; so&#8230; frustrating. </p>
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		<title>By: Matt Brett &#187; Death of an Xbox 360 Fanboy?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Brett &#187; Death of an Xbox 360 Fanboy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - getting all of my XBLA games, themes and gamer pics working for all profiles on the new console.  I&#8217;ve written about this at length before, and a comment was made by a reader explaining a process to bypass the bullshit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; getting all of my XBLA games, themes and gamer pics working for all profiles on the new console.  I&#8217;ve written about this at length before, and a comment was made by a reader explaining a process to bypass the bullshit [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post -- just wanted to also comment on the HDMI issue.  I have a 1080p TV myself and would love to have that HDMI port as well.  However the REAL bummer is that, without HDMI or VGA (which my TV also lacks, of course.. just my luck..) the console doesn&#039;t upconvert standard DVDs either.  What a waste, too, given that the 360, unlike the PS3, actually has a scaling chip built in to do it. 
 
Matt:  If you have a VGA connector on your TV, you can use that in lieu of HDMI -- it&#039;ll give you 1080p capability and DVD upconversion... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post &#8212; just wanted to also comment on the HDMI issue.  I have a 1080p TV myself and would love to have that HDMI port as well.  However the REAL bummer is that, without HDMI or VGA (which my TV also lacks, of course.. just my luck..) the console doesn&#039;t upconvert standard DVDs either.  What a waste, too, given that the 360, unlike the PS3, actually has a scaling chip built in to do it.</p>
<p>Matt:  If you have a VGA connector on your TV, you can use that in lieu of HDMI &#8212; it&#039;ll give you 1080p capability and DVD upconversion&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, you don&#039;t have to re-DOWNLOAD everything.. you just have to re-activate it.  The game and game saves, etc. are still on the hard drive.  You simply log into the new silver account with credited points, select each game, then select &quot;unlock full game&quot;, and 5 seconds later it&#039;s back to a full version on the new console. 
 
Two other things I forgot to mention: 
- They can automatically credit you the points for games you purchased, but anything over 1600 points, they&#039;ll give you prepaid card codes and just credit you the difference.  In other words, say you spent 2400 points.  They&#039;ll automatically credit the account and then give you a prepaid 1600 points code.  Why they do it that way is a complete mystery to me, but it&#039;s how it&#039;s always done. 
- If you redeemed a prepaid redemption code for a game (i.e. Bankshot Billiards, Uno, Geometry Wars, etc)...meaning you had a 25-digit code that activated a game without points... you MUST tell them that when you open your ticket because they don&#039;t credit those points.  Rather, they&#039;ll give you a new code to reactivate the game.  However, if you don&#039;t specifically tell them &quot;I had a prepaid code for xxx game&quot;, they won&#039;t give you a way to activate it when they finally get back to you a week or 2 later. 
 
In summary, I&#039;ve done this twice -- it&#039;s a major pain -- but at least there&#039;s SOME way to move purchased xbox live content to a new console.  Just bring a high level of patience to set up the ticket with customer service, and then be prepared to wait a while for a callback. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, you don&#039;t have to re-DOWNLOAD everything.. you just have to re-activate it.  The game and game saves, etc. are still on the hard drive.  You simply log into the new silver account with credited points, select each game, then select &quot;unlock full game&quot;, and 5 seconds later it&#039;s back to a full version on the new console.</p>
<p>Two other things I forgot to mention:</p>
<p>- They can automatically credit you the points for games you purchased, but anything over 1600 points, they&#039;ll give you prepaid card codes and just credit you the difference.  In other words, say you spent 2400 points.  They&#039;ll automatically credit the account and then give you a prepaid 1600 points code.  Why they do it that way is a complete mystery to me, but it&#039;s how it&#039;s always done.</p>
<p>- If you redeemed a prepaid redemption code for a game (i.e. Bankshot Billiards, Uno, Geometry Wars, etc)&#8230;meaning you had a 25-digit code that activated a game without points&#8230; you MUST tell them that when you open your ticket because they don&#039;t credit those points.  Rather, they&#039;ll give you a new code to reactivate the game.  However, if you don&#039;t specifically tell them &quot;I had a prepaid code for xxx game&quot;, they won&#039;t give you a way to activate it when they finally get back to you a week or 2 later.</p>
<p>In summary, I&#039;ve done this twice &#8212; it&#039;s a major pain &#8212; but at least there&#039;s SOME way to move purchased xbox live content to a new console.  Just bring a high level of patience to set up the ticket with customer service, and then be prepared to wait a while for a callback. </p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike Pollock: That there, is one great bit of intel.  Thanks for sharing!  Although, said process is still quite a pain in the ass - having to re-download everything from the Marketplace.  It&#039;s far better than the current &quot;solution&quot;, if you can call it that. 
 
Now that I&#039;ve got the HD DVD drive, I&#039;d be lying if I said I wasn&#039;t itching for an Elite for the HDMI.  But then again, I&#039;d still need a 1080p TV to fully get the goods. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike Pollock: That there, is one great bit of intel.  Thanks for sharing!  Although, said process is still quite a pain in the ass &#8211; having to re-download everything from the Marketplace.  It&#039;s far better than the current &quot;solution&quot;, if you can call it that.</p>
<p>Now that I&#039;ve got the HD DVD drive, I&#039;d be lying if I said I wasn&#039;t itching for an Elite for the HDMI.  But then again, I&#039;d still need a 1080p TV to fully get the goods. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pollock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Pollock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a little FYI - I experienced this same problem.  However, there IS a solution, albeit you need some serious patience.  Call the 1-800-4-MY-XBOX.  If you did an RMA through Microsoft, they&#039;ll have the old and new serial numbers.. otherwise, you have to fax proof of purchase.  Then, you create another xbox live silver account.  
 
They&#039;ll then &quot;escalate your issue to a supervisor&quot; who calls back in about 7-10 days and will credit this new account with the points for the games you purchased.  Finally, you can re-purchase the games with the credited points under the new account, effectively activating the games on the new console. 
 
It&#039;s a huge pain, and if you get someone in India, hang up and just call back until you get someone who speaks fluent, proper American English.  However, it CAN be done. 
 
I just don&#039;t understand why they can&#039;t do this via the transfer cable (activate a new serial number and deactive the original).. but, that&#039;s a different issue I suppose. [I suppose this way you could ghost the hard drive manually, transfer the data, and then ghost it back and have the game installed on two consoles that way.  But sheesh..] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a little FYI &#8211; I experienced this same problem.  However, there IS a solution, albeit you need some serious patience.  Call the 1-800-4-MY-XBOX.  If you did an RMA through Microsoft, they&#039;ll have the old and new serial numbers.. otherwise, you have to fax proof of purchase.  Then, you create another xbox live silver account. </p>
<p>They&#039;ll then &quot;escalate your issue to a supervisor&quot; who calls back in about 7-10 days and will credit this new account with the points for the games you purchased.  Finally, you can re-purchase the games with the credited points under the new account, effectively activating the games on the new console.</p>
<p>It&#039;s a huge pain, and if you get someone in India, hang up and just call back until you get someone who speaks fluent, proper American English.  However, it CAN be done.</p>
<p>I just don&#039;t understand why they can&#039;t do this via the transfer cable (activate a new serial number and deactive the original).. but, that&#039;s a different issue I suppose. [I suppose this way you could ghost the hard drive manually, transfer the data, and then ghost it back and have the game installed on two consoles that way.  But sheesh..] </p>
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		<title>By: S Frampton</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Frampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 21:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same problem. My 360 craped out, I received refurbed 360. I kept Hard drive. now I have to be online to use downloaded content.  This sucks huge and the bastards at microsoft better fix this shit. I go away every summer and the place I go to has NO Internet. You would think with all the people working at Microsoft issues like these would never happen. And I Guarantee they could fix this issue if they would get off their asses and FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem. My 360 craped out, I received refurbed 360. I kept Hard drive. now I have to be online to use downloaded content.  This sucks huge and the bastards at microsoft better fix this shit. I go away every summer and the place I go to has NO Internet. You would think with all the people working at Microsoft issues like these would never happen. And I Guarantee they could fix this issue if they would get off their asses and FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </p>
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